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Jim Power

Chuck,

You are dead on. My nephew asked me recently where he could go to school to learn what I do and I had to honestly tell him that there is no school or degree that would teach him what he would know to do my job. I started out with a CS degree and learned programming and how programs work. Then I was a Unix/Windows/Novell admin for a decade and learned how Operating Systems and clustering really worked. Then I was a DBA for a few years and learned how Databases worked, and now I have been doing storage/architecture for about 12 years now.

If you had the right teachers and curriculum, there is no reason that you couldn't teach kids what I know. The problem is that most degree programs teach a subject in depth and their knowledge ends up being "an inch wide and a mile deep". Meanwhile the way that technology changes if they do not continue to learn and adapt, then their degree knowledge will be obsolete in a decade.

I really think that it is the College/University system that has failed. They want kids to pay a fortune and they get out and have few marketable skills and can't get a job.
I think that IT/IS education needs to be totally revamped.
I think that Partnerships between companies and schools would be a great start. For example if EMC, HDS, & IBM all partnered with a school and came up with a Storage degree program and all three companies helped with the curriculum, supplied instructors, and provided lab gear---this would be totally doable. In addition the companies would now have a talented group of properly trained youngsters that they could hire every year.

Chuck Hollis

Hi Jim -- thanks for the comment.

I think many of us feel the same -- there are no degree programs that teach you the useful, practical stuff that we all do in our day-to-day jobs. And it's that useful, practical stuff that employers look for.

As a matter of fact, EMC has been partnering with universities around delivering relevant coursework (storage and other topics) for many years now.

But the problem isn't supply, it's demand. Surprisingly few universities are motivated to offer this sort of education for a variety of reasons that aren't exactly clear to me.

Thanks again.

-- Chuck

Michael Scully

Great post. While reading, I started to think back about what exact steps it took to acquire the Technology Knowledge I have now and it paints more of a picture of scattered collection from many points than a consistently delivered set of knowledge from one or a few sources. I call it a college without walls because most of the knowledge came from real world experiences, on the job challenges, marketplace interaction and personal motivation. Happy to be at EMC, adding to my knowledge toolkit.

Rock Solid IT

Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.

HollywoodSQL

Chuck,

Thanks for sharing. It is so vital to have industry support with inspiring our youth. We have to capitalize on the momentum of the success of others from STEM to create sustainable programs in our environments that will inspire the technologists of tomorrow.

I am an IT Executive from a high profile entertainment company here in Los Angeles. I am a product of the STEM education system, and am now paying it forward. We designed a series of workshops under STEM hosted at our corporation highlighting our IT personnel, IT culture, and technologies, with an emphasis on the importance of finding inner passion. We have had huge success!

@hollywoodsql

Umbrarchist

Maybe that should be changed to STEAM.

A for Accounting. Double-entry accounting is SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS OLD. Why hasn't it been mandatory in our schools for decades? If accounting had been mandatory since the 60s would we be having these economic problems now?

What do our engineers have to say about how much Americans have lost on the depreciation of automobiles since the Moon landing?

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