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Howard Marks

Chuck,

Good thoughts here; but of course the Stockholm Syndrome applies to EMC as much as to Oracle, HP or IBM. Even more insidiously it applies to technologies as well.

Anyone that's invested the time and effort to learning how to implement a technology like Fibre Channel is going want to keep that technology around even if iSCSI and NFS have matured to the point where they'll do the job well enough for less. In fact that's one of the barriers to even FCoE adoption.

mike workman

Chuck -

I hadn't read Howard's comments when I read your blog - but I thought the same thing he did - EMC is proably one of the biggest companies holding people captive I have ever experieinced.

Seriously - your Salespeople understandably ridiculed and sold against companies like Data Domain, Isilon, Kaysha and others the day before you bought them. Part of the reason you bought these companies as we all know, is that their technology was superior to what had evolved within EMC. Not a criticism, just a fact. How did your Salespeople prevail so often against superior technology? You had Customers captive to your point. I know that the captives didn't always fall in love with their captors in EMC's case, but they were captives nonetheless.

I think Oracle is a great example of this, as an entire industry revolves around Oracle software that is at least as big as Oracle itself. People's careers indeed are made on their Oracle expertise. This too isn't necessarily bad, it is just a fact. But all this vested interest makes the customers captive by their service providers, employees, internal install base, and consultants as well as Oracle itself.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on the point of macro or strategic view versus tactical view. This is why at the Pillar Summit last week our discussions were all framed around where we are going, indeed where the Industry is going in our view. But this view, even if superior to EMC's, or resonant with Customer's needs doesn't make it any easier for people to unshackle themselves and escape their captors. Well maybe marginally so....

Perhaps I missed your point?

Mike

Chuck Hollis

Hi Mike

Funny how my thoughts on how service providers can help IT leaders have somehow turned into a rant against EMC in your hands ...

I would like to add one dimension to your observation: it's one thing to buy technology from a smaller startup, and another thing entirely to buy that same technology from a large, established company with a proven reputation for stability and support. If you don't believe me, talk to customers on that one.

In many cases, we have partnered with the company prior to acquisition, including many of the names you mentioned -- Greenplum being the latest.

The point still remains: the captivity effect is strong in our industry (regardless of vendor), and service providers can play a key role for IT leaders looking to make a change.

-- Chuck

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